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RE: Fake Coins/Tokens

DianaR — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:38:18 GMT

I have never found a fake coin or slug in any of my winnings. Will a cashier replace the bogus coind for you or are you just out of luck when that happens?

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Brandbla8 — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:58:00 GMT

I think the newer machines have better detection methods than some of the older ones. However I don't think I have ever run across that rpoblem myself.

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writersblock — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:48:19 GMT

If I got the fake coins in payout, I would just put them back into the machine and play them so I wouldn't be stuck with them.

You know there are schemers out there thinking of everything. I am sure someone has figured this out too.

RE: Fake Coins/Tokens

Ricardo — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:43:14 GMT

I don't think that I've ever even seen a fake coin or token in the years I've played slots and video poker.

I agree that it's become less of an issue with so many machines accepting bills and paying out with pieces of paper.

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ChipsAlive — Sat, 31 May 2008 01:06:00 GMT

Not in the UK they haven't-at least in pubs and clubs where I am most likely to play them they still take real coins. So there really is still an issue.

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smitty — Fri, 30 May 2008 02:03:48 GMT

I wouldn't worry about it too much these days as most of the slots have gone coin-less and payout tickets that you cash in and only accept bills or tickets. I remember getting a couple of slugs but that was years ago.
Smitty

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SpareChange — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:25:52 GMT

Ah that makes a LOT more sense! The ferrous properties of a coin wouldn't help because of the fact that too many coins are not magnetic, but each and ever metal would have it's own electrical conduction properties, different rates of resistance and so on.

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aces&eights — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:50:45 GMT

While this may not be the most perfect information it does back up what I know to be true from working in high volume food services for many years. paper counterfeiting is the only avenue left. Odd coind get pulled by the weigh counters for coins.
[quote]Counterfeit detector machines are used to find out whether or not a piece of currency is counterfeit or legitimate. Many of these devices can be found in vending machines as they accept payment and then dispense a product to a customer. However, they can also be found in many other machines such as change machines and slot machines in a casino.

The counterfeit detector machine uses a process that looks at the bill being inserted into the machine and running various tests to help determine if the bill is counterfeit or not. Since both paper money and coins have their own counterfeit parameters each machine needs to be individually programmed to check for the currency it is accepting.

If the currency is found to be legitimate the machine retains the bill in a storage device and provides you with your product. If the currency is found to be counterfeit then the machine will return the currency to you.

There are counterfeit detector machines designed specifically for paper currency which are called bill validators or bill acceptors. These types of machines scan the paper currency using both magnetic and optical sensors to check for counterfeit bills. There are various interfaces that can be used with these machines. Often times wrinkled or creased bills are returned to the customers because they are regarded as being counterfeit.

Then there are also specific counterfeit detector machines that are used to find counterfeit coins. These machines test the physical properties of the coin placed in the machine against the current coin composites. Most of these tests are performed using either a laser or electrical current, which has helped to eliminate the problem of people creating coins out of a cheaper metal and having them weigh the same as a legitimate coin. This is why many of the counterfeit currency today is paper and not coin, it is virtually impossible to create a counterfeit coin today.[/quote]

RE: Fake Coins/Tokens

SpareChange — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:04:39 GMT

That's the kind of thing I would worry about. As long as the coins are the same size and the same weight as the real thing, then generally they will be accepted. You could end up with almost anything in there.

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online_sugal — Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:45:17 GMT

My hubby used to play in an arcade station using our local coin instead of the token. The machine accepted the coin and he did it almost every day. It's a genuine money of our though but of a lesser value than the token.

RE: Fake Coins/Tokens

SpareChange — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:14:21 GMT

Coins are not of a-ack, I can't remember the name! But they don't get attracted by magnets! So I don't think it could be based on that.

RE: Fake Coins/Tokens

Bluffer — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:11:56 GMT

I'm not really sure how do the slot machines identify the fake coins but from my readings, the basis of the slot machines is through the size and the weight. Although some slot machines also have some kind of electromagnet that gets only the real ones with some kind of magnet. The fake coins will just pass through and go straight out.

RE: Fake Coins/Tokens

SpareChange — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:16:24 GMT

How do they tell? Most go on size and weight alone, and you would think that it would be pretty easy to fake them on that basis alone. So how do newer ones do it?

RE: Fake Coins/Tokens

slickchick — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:08:23 GMT

I would imagine it would depend on the age of the machine just like vending machines. Older machines aren't able to determine a real quarter from a fake one or a similar foreign coin as much as the newer ones that can tell immediately if its not a true American quarter.

Fake Coins/Tokens

FreeSpin — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:03:49 GMT

How prone are slot machines to being filled with counterfeit tokens or coins? I have myself received a few in the payouts that I received, but statistically few given how much I have played.