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RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

DianaR — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:46:47 GMT

I didn't have the impression that underaged people would be allowed to gamble without parental supervision. Why would it be assumed that would be part of the deal?

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

writersblock — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:50:29 GMT

I would hope that they don't end up letting underage kids gamble.

I can see lots of kids telling their parents they are going one place and ending up at casinos just our of curiosity. This is an age that could get addicted and into big touble.

I agree~ the only reason they are considering this is for the money they will make.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

Brandbla8 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:27:58 GMT

I am stumped on this one. In one way I think the age should be atleast 18 and in another way, my children do pay to play video games as well as play cards with me (not for money however).

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

GambleFever — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:32:48 GMT

You cannot blame bad parenting on casinos, since that obviously is not their job! Parenting is of course the responsibility of parents, who should gbe trying to raise their kids up right. You cannot blame Casinos for parental short-comings, simple as that.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

tlourdeau — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:28:58 GMT

[quote][b]GambleFever (5/30/2008)[/b][hr]The way I see it, I don't really care what the legal age is. Parents need to watch after their kids, and as was mentioned in another thread, kids are already gambling in school and at friends houses anyway. The problem will always exist, regardless of the prohibitive rules which are put in place.[/quote]

I agree. It's the parents responsibility to regulate what goes on in their kids' lives. The casino's motivation is not even a factor in this case.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

SofaSurfer — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:57:04 GMT

Smoking and drinking are two things that come to mind as unsavoury (for children) in a casino, that and swearing. And comparing it to driving and drinking doesn't work either because-you guessed it-both of those activities have an age limit!!

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

GambleFever — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 04:09:07 GMT

Can gambling be done irresponsibly? Sure, but that is far from just being an issue with age. People of all ages lose their shirts, just because they had to be gung ho and let themselves get into that situation. Alcohol and driving are two other things that many people abuse, but what about all the controlled drinkers and good drivers?

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

DianaR — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:46:23 GMT

[quote][b]SofaSurfer (5/30/2008)[/b][hr]There's a big difference between winning pencils or cars in the playground, and gambling legitimately for cash in a casino. There is far too much that is unsavoury in a casino, kids should not be around that kind of thing.[/quote]

I can't think of anything unsavory about a casino. What casinos have you been in?

Gambling for cars and pencils can take place in dark corners and alleys with kids being bullied and beat up.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

DianaR — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:42:20 GMT

[quote][b]GambleFever (5/30/2008)[/b][hr]The way I see it, I don't really care what the legal age is. Parents need to watch after their kids, and as was mentioned in another thread, kids are already gambling in school and at friends houses anyway. The problem will always exist, regardless of the prohibitive rules which are put in place.[/quote]

So true.

If parents don't want their kids gambling, it is up to them to indoctrinate them against the activity.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

GambleFever — Sat, 31 May 2008 03:58:55 GMT

I admit that Sofa Surfer brought up some very valid points, but either way...I do not think having the legal age be 18 or so is being too unreasonable. Technically, an eighteen year old is supposed to be an adult anyway. Why not just let them gamble if they are in fact adults?

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

SofaSurfer — Fri, 30 May 2008 06:07:43 GMT

There's a big difference between winning pencils or cars in the playground, and gambling legitimately for cash in a casino. There is far too much that is unsavoury in a casino, kids should not be around that kind of thing.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

GambleFever — Fri, 30 May 2008 05:26:54 GMT

The way I see it, I don't really care what the legal age is. Parents need to watch after their kids, and as was mentioned in another thread, kids are already gambling in school and at friends houses anyway. The problem will always exist, regardless of the prohibitive rules which are put in place.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

DianaR — Thu, 29 May 2008 17:11:40 GMT

[quote][b]Loves2Play (5/27/2008)[/b][hr]No matter what the tribes "official" line is for wanting to take away or lower the age limit we all know it is for one reason and one reason only. To make more money!
L2P[/quote]

I haven't seen anything to indicate the possible changes in the gambling age on the reservations [b]wasn't[/b] to make more money. The way the tribes [b]view[/b] gambling isn't incompatible with profit, it is just an interesting note to add since we are talking about a culture that might not have the same constraints that the rest of the USA does.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

smitty — Wed, 28 May 2008 01:16:51 GMT

Just one more thing to get more of the almighty dollar. This is a ridiculously bad idea and I hope the federal government would step in with a little "hint" about reducing government subsidies, etc. for the reservations. Gambling at a young age has nothing to do with tradition or heritage.
Smitty

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

ChipsAlive — Wed, 28 May 2008 00:20:52 GMT

Quite honestly I hate this idea. Sure kids don't make money to gamble with, but parents have wallets that are left around. I had more than one childhood friend who was stealing from their parent-this could lead to a whole host of problems.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

Loves2Play — Tue, 27 May 2008 00:34:46 GMT

No matter what the tribes "official" line is for wanting to take away or lower the age limit we all know it is for one reason and one reason only. To make more money!
L2P

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

DianaR — Thu, 15 May 2008 20:47:20 GMT

[quote][b]aces&eights (5/14/2008)[/b][hr]While many laws work in some places and not others based on the cultural differences. I honestly can't see where towns are going to like allowing minors to gamble on reservation casinos though. It will definitely put a halt on people allowing new indian casinos or expansions.[/quote]

Since the reservations are, theoretically, nations separate from the USA, the same arguments that allowed them to set up casinos in the first place may be used to allow a lowered age limit. Surrounding towns may not like it, but once a family takes their youngsters into a reservation, there is little anyone will be able to do to prevent parents' allowing them to gamble.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

jimbo66 — Thu, 15 May 2008 11:28:37 GMT

I think 18 is a better age, if we're putting an arbitrary number in. At 18, a person can go off to war and get shot, they should also be able to play poker if they want.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

paytheline11 — Thu, 15 May 2008 06:55:42 GMT

I know that some of the tribal casinos around here allow 18 year olds. I am not surprised they want to allow minors to gamble, more money for them. There are plenty of 16 year olds out there with money and not much sense!

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

knacker — Wed, 14 May 2008 20:22:57 GMT

I'm not really sure what the age limit would be. I see some really immature 18 and 21 year olds, and I see some extremely mature 16 year olds. I think this is going to be off and on the headlines for a good time to come, very interesting.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

GambleFever — Wed, 14 May 2008 03:42:07 GMT

I actually feel that the legal age of gambling should be lowered, but not removed entirely. Maybe make the legal age be 18 instead of 21? That is just my opinion on the matter, and more than a few people will probably disagree with me on that one. Having the age limit be 21 just seems horribly ineffective to me.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

aces&eights — Wed, 14 May 2008 03:27:29 GMT

While many laws work in some places and not others based on the cultural differences. I honestly can't see where towns are going to like allowing minors to gamble on reservation casinos though. It will definitely put a halt on people allowing new indian casinos or expansions.

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

DianaR — Tue, 13 May 2008 15:48:23 GMT

Most of our attitudes about gambling originate with religious taboos, handed down for so long that arguments against gambling are accepted easily, IMHO. I bet Native American tribes don't have these barriers because their traditions don't teach these sorts of taboos.

People under 18 gamble when they play games at carnivals and festivals, with the only difference being that paying for these "chances to win" don't have the possibility of accumulating a great deal of wealth with one lucky toss of a bean bag!

RE: Tribes want to allow underage gambling

Garala — Tue, 13 May 2008 04:24:08 GMT

Well I mean think about this for a little.
How many kids at least under 18 are gonna go to the casino anyway?

How many parents are gonna let their kids get into it?

Lastly how many kids are making enough money to gamble with it?

Even if they do take away the age limit i don't think much will change.

Tribes want to allow underage gambling

littlebit — Mon, 12 May 2008 17:50:31 GMT

I was reading an article earlier where some of the Indian tribes in the US were going to allow gambling by minors as it's not against their tribal gaming compacts. I do hope they rethink this as I don't think it's a good idea at all.